Collision over Gun Reform Bill: ‘You’re Making Criminals of Common Citizens’
Republicans on the Assembly Appropriations Committee took aim at Assemblyman Joe Danielsen’s (D-17) gun reform bill (A-4769), which establishes certain criteria for obtaining a permit to carry a handgun while codifying certain venues at which the right to carry firearms would be restricted due to security and safety concerns.
Danielsen wrote the bill in response to the Supreme Court’s decision in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen. His legislation targets the state’s firearm licensing laws and establishes a list of sensitive locations where guns may not be carried, including playgrounds, bars and restaurants that serve alcohol, train stations, and polling places.
“Anything we can do to protect New Jerseyans, including police officers,” said Assemblywoman Lisa Swain (D-38).
Ultimately, the bill passed on the Democratic Party-controlled committee, over the 2nd Amendment-fueled protestations of the GOP.
“Do you agree we have a constitutional right to bear arms?” Assemblyman Brian Bergen (R-25) wanted to know.
“I do,” said Danielsen. “I have at many times been an advocate for gun owners. This is a safety first legislation. This bill says more about safety than it does about guns.”
Bergen took the bill apart.
“This bill discriminates against a woman’s right to carry,” said the Republican. “The bill is discriminatory. Will you commit to altering the bill to permit a woman to carry in anything she might be wearing? What’s the rationale for not permitting a woman to carry a gun in a purse? You said under your bill a woman could not carry a gun in a purse.”
Bergen also strenuously resisted another portion of the bill.
“It requires you to take your handgun and lock it to be concealed,” the GOP assemblyman griped. “There is a law against brandishing a weapon; if you show your weapon it’s against the law to do that. You are asking a person to brandish their weapon in public.”
Assemblyman Jay Webber (R-26) likewise voted no, citing a key problem.
“It gives the ability of municipalities to make up their own rules,” Webber said. “You’re talking about 565 jurisdictions. You’re going to trap people into committing third and fourth degree crimes. That is one of the worst parts of the bill. There are parts of the bill that make sense (including adjustments to the supreme Court decision on concealed carry).”
But not enough for him to cast a vote in favor.
Rob Nixon of the state PBA expressed concerns over the bills impact on retired officers.
“My understanding is there are amendments to address those issues but they don’t go far enough,” he said.
Bergen fulminated against the bill.
“The sponsor could not list one place where a person could carry a gun,” he said. “It’s insane. You’re making criminals of common citizens.”
Danielsen said he intends to address some of the “moving parts” in the bill, specifically those that pertain to law enforcement.
“We are the majority party for a reason. We are responsive, we are dynamic. This bill is a safety bill from the beginning to the end.”
To his Republican rivals he added: “You will never vote for this bill even if Jesus or Gandhi walked in with it.”
The New Jersey chapters of Moms Demand Action and Students Demand Action, both part of Everytown for Gun Safety’s grassroots networks, released the following statement applauding the New Jersey legislature and New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy for taking “a crucial step to address the new dangers created by Senate President Nicholas Scutari and Assembly Speaker Coughlin spearheaded efforts to introduce this legislation.”
“The New Jersey legislature has taken a crucial first step in repairing the damage caused by the wrong and dangerous decision the Supreme Court made in Bruen,” said Lauren Knighton, a volunteer with the New Jersey chapter of Moms Demand Action. “We know what is at stake, and we cannot take our foot off the gas. I am proud to stand alongside New Jersey’s lawmakers, Governor Murphy, and fellow gun safety advocates to ensure that this bill becomes law so that all of our communities across New Jersey are protected from senseless acts of gun violence.”
The full provisions of the bill are below:
Under current law, in order to lawfully carry a handgun in public, it is necessary for a private citizen to obtain a permit to carry a handgun. Applicants for a permit to carry a handgun need the approval of the chief of police in the municipality where they reside and the approval of a Superior Court judge in the county where they reside. Approval is contingent upon a person submitting, along with the application, a written certification establishing justifiable need. Justifiable need is defined as the urgent necessity for self-protection, as evidenced by specific threats or previous attacks which demonstrate a special danger to the applicant’s life that cannot be avoided by means other than by issuance of a permit to carry a handgun. This bill eliminates the justifiable need standard.
The bill also expands the disqualifying criteria that would prohibit a person from obtaining a firearm purchaser identification card (FPIC), permit to purchase a handgun (PPH), or permit to carry a handgun. Under current law, a person who receives these documents is required to be of “good character” and “good repute” in the community and not subject to any of the disqualifying criteria listed in subsection c. of N.J.S.2C:58-3. This bill removes the “good character” and “good repute” criteria and revises the standard to require the issuance of a FPIC or PPH, unless the applicant is known in the community in which the person lives as someone who has engaged in acts or made statements suggesting the person is likely to engage in conduct, other than justified self-defense, that would pose a danger to self or others, or is subject to any of the disabilities set forth in current law. The bill expands the list of disqualifying criteria to include:
- persons presently confined for a mental disorder as a voluntary admission or involuntary commitment for inpatient or outpatient treatment;
- persons who have violated a temporary or final restraining order issued pursuant to the “Prevention of Domestic Violence Act of 1991” or a temporary or final domestic violence restraining order issued in another jurisdiction prohibiting the person from possessing any firearm;
- persons who are subject to or have violated a temporary or final restraining order issued pursuant to the “Sexual Assault Survivor Protection Act of 2015”;
- persons who have previously been voluntarily admitted or involuntarily committed to inpatient or outpatient mental health treatment, unless the court has expunged the person’s record;
- persons who are subject to an outstanding arrest warrant for an indictable crime in this State or for a felony in any other state or federal jurisdiction. This provision would not include individuals seeking reproductive health care services in this State;
- persons who are a fugitive from justice due to having fled from any state or federal jurisdiction to avoid prosecution for a crime or to avoid giving testimony in any criminal proceeding. This provision would not include individuals seeking reproductive health care services in this State; and
- persons who are convicted of a fourth degree crime for violating the handgun carry requirements established under the bill.
The bill also makes several changes to the procedure for applying for an FPIC or PPH. Under the bill, an applicant would be required to provide any aliases or other names previously used by the applicant. A PPH applicant also would be required to indicate, with respect to each handgun listed on the form, whether the applicant is purchasing the handgun on the applicant’s own behalf or on behalf of a third party. In addition, the bill increases the fee to obtain an FPIC from two dollars to $25. The fee for the PPH would be increased from five dollars to $50.
In addition, this bill renders a recent enactment (P.L.2022, c.58), which requires FPICs to display a picture and thumb print, inoperative until the Superintendent of State Police establishes a system for issuing these cards. The bill also clarifies that the FPIC would be electronically linked to the fingerprints of the card holder, rather than displaying a thumb print.
The bill also codifies the electronic method for reporting handgun sales. Under current law, the PPH is issued as a quadruplicate document. A firearm retailer is required to complete all four of the documents prior to selling a handgun and send the first copy to Superintendent of State Police and the second copy to the chief of police of the municipality in which the purchaser resides. The third copy is retained by the retail dealer and may be subject to inspection by law enforcement at any reasonable time. The purchaser retains the fourth copy as a permanent record. This bill codifies the current procedure established by the State Police, which established a web portal for electronically reporting handgun sales. The bill also requires that handgun transfers between or among immediate family members, law enforcement officers, or collectors of firearms or ammunition as curios or relics are to be conducted via the web portal.
In addition, the bill revises the application process for obtaining a permit to carry a handgun. Under current law, a person applying for a permit to carry a handgun is required to provide endorsements from three people who have known the applicant for at least three years and can attest that he or she is of good moral character and behavior. The bill requires an applicant to provide endorsements from five people who are unrelated to the applicant. The persons providing the endorsement are to provide relevant information, including the nature and extent of their relationship with the applicant and information concerning their knowledge of the applicant’s use of drugs or alcohol. The bill also requires the chief of police or superintendent, as appropriate, to interview the applicant and persons providing the endorsement. The interviewer is to inquire whether the applicant is likely to engage in conduct that would result in harm to the applicant or others. Additionally, the interviewer is to inquire whether the applicant has any history of threats or acts of violence by the applicant directed toward self or others or any history of use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force by the applicant against another person, or other incidents implicating the criteria that would disqualify a person from obtaining a FPIC or PPH. The chief of police or the superintendent also may require information from the applicant or any other person pertaining to publicly available statements posted or published online by the applicant. The bill also extends the time frame which the superintendent or chief of police is required to approve or deny an application for a permit to carry a handgun application from 60 to 90 days.
The bill also requires the Superintendent of State Police to establish a training requirement in the lawful and safe handling and storage of firearms for persons who obtain a permit to carry a handgun. The training requirement is to consist of an online course of instruction, in-person classroom instruction, and target training. The training is to include, but not be limited to, demonstration of a level of proficiency in the use of a handgun in such manner as required by the superintendent and training on justification in the use of deadly force under State law. The bill requires the training to include demonstration of a level of proficiency in the use of a handgun in a manner as may be required by the superintendent and training on justification in the use of deadly force under State law. A person who obtained a permit to carry a handgun prior to the bill’s effective date would be required to complete the classroom instruction and target training within 90 days of the bill’s effective date.
In addition, the application fee for the permit to carry a handgun would be $200. In the case of an application made to the chief police officer of a municipality, $150 of the fee is to be retained by the municipality and the remaining $50 is to be forwarded to the superintendent. The fee amount retained by the municipality is to be used to defray the costs of investigation, administration, and processing of the permit to carry handgun applications. Application fees made to the superintendent are to be deposited into the Victims of Crime Compensation Office account. The bill also provides that mayors and elected members of a municipal governing body are to apply to the superintendent, rather than the chief law enforcement officer, when applying for a permit to carry a handgun.
Under the bill, the permit would be issued to the applicant electronically through email or through the web portal established or designated for this purpose by the superintendent, or in such form or manner as may be authorized by the superintendent. Prior to issuing the permit, the chief of police or superintendent is required to determine whether:
- the applicant is a person of good character who is not subject to any of the disabilities prohibiting the person from purchasing a firearm;
- has not been convicted of a crime of the fourth degree in violation of the carry permit requirements established by the bill;
- is thoroughly familiar with the safe handling and use of handguns; and
- is in compliance with the firearm carry liability insurance established by the bill.
The bill requires a private citizen who obtains a carry permit to obtain public carry liability insurance. The bill requires the liability insurance coverage to insure against loss resulting from liability imposed by law for bodily injury, death, and property damage sustained by any person arising out of the ownership, maintenance, operation or use of a firearm carried in public. The bill requires the coverage to be at least in:
- an amount or limit of $100,000, exclusive of interest and costs, on account of injury to, or death of, one person, in any one incident;
- an amount or limit, subject to such limit for any one person so injured or killed, of $300,000, exclusive of interest and costs, on account of injury to or death of, more than one person, in any one incident; and
- an amount or limit of $25,000, exclusive of interest and costs, for damage to property in any one incident.
The holder of a permit to carry a handgun would be required to produce and display proof of insurance upon request to any law enforcement officer or to any person who has suffered or claims to have suffered either injury or property damage arising out of the ownership, maintenance, operation or use of a firearm carried in public.
In addition, the bill requires persons who obtain a permit to carry a handgun to adhere to certain requirements. Under the bill, a person with a carry permit would be prohibited from:
- using or consuming alcohol, a cannabis item, or a controlled substance while carrying a handgun;
- being under the influence of alcohol, cannabis, or a controlled substance while carrying a handgun;
- carrying a handgun not authorized under the permit;
- carrying a handgun outside of a holster or in an unauthorized holster;
- carrying more than two firearms under the permittee’s control at one time;
- engaging in an unjustified display of a handgun;
- if carrying a handgun in public, failing to display the permit to carry a handgun and proof of firearm public carry liability insurance upon request of a law enforcement officer; or
- if carrying a handgun in public, refusing to provide the handgun to a law enforcement officer upon request for purposes of inspecting the handgun.
A person who violates these requirements would be guilty of a crime of the fourth degree. A violation also may serve as sufficient grounds for revocation of a permit to carry a handgun.
The bill provides that when stopped by a law enforcement officer a permit holder would be required to immediately disclose to the officer that the permit holder is carrying a handgun in public and display proof of liability insurance. A person who fails to disclose to a law enforcement officer that they are carrying a handgun would be guilty of a fourth degree crime. A person who fails to display proof of firearm public carry liability insurance would be guilty of a disorderly persons offense and subject to a $100 fine and guilty of a crime of the fourth degree for a second or subsequent offense.
The bill also delineates places in which a permit holder would be prohibited from carrying a handgun. Under the bill, it would be a third degree crime to carry any firearm or weapon in the following locations:
- a place owned, leased, or under the control of State, county, or municipal government used for the purpose of government administration, including but not limited to police stations;
- a courthouse, courtroom, or any other premises used to conduct judicial or court administrative proceedings or functions;
- a State, county, or municipal correctional or juvenile justice facility, jail and any other place maintained by or for a governmental entity for the detention of criminal suspects or offenders;
- a State-contracted half-way house;
- a location being used as a polling place during the conduct of an election;
- a place where a public gathering, demonstration, or event is held for which a government permit is required, during the conduct of such gathering, demonstration, or event;
- a school, college, university, or other educational institution and on any school bus;
- a child care facility or day care center;
- a nursery school, pre-school, zoo, or summer camp;
- a park, beach, recreation facility, or area or playground owned or controlled by a State, county or local government unit;
- at youth sports events during and immediately preceding and following the conduct of the event;
- a publicly owned or leased library or museum;
- a shelter for the homeless, emergency shelter for the homeless, basic center shelter program, shelter for homeless or runaway youth, children’s shelter, child care shelter, shelter for victims of domestic violence, or any shelter under the control of the Juvenile Justice Commission or the Department of Children and Families;
- a community residence for persons with developmental disabilities, head injuries, or terminal illnesses, or any other residential setting licensed by the Department of Human Services or Department of Health;
- a bar or restaurant where alcohol is served, and any other site or facility where alcohol is sold for consumption on the premises;
- a site or facility where cannabis is sold for consumption on the premises;
- a privately or publicly owned and operated entertainment facility within this State, including but not limited to a theater, stadium, museum, arena, racetrack, or other place where performances, concerts, exhibits, games, or contests are held;
- a casino and related facilities, including but not limited to appurtenant hotels, retail premises, restaurant, and bar facilities, and entertainment and recreational venues located within the casino property;
- a plant or operation that produces, converts, distributes, or stores energy or converts one form of energy to another;
- an airport or public transportation hub;
- a health care facility and any facility licensed or regulated by the Department of Human Services or Department of Health, other than a health care facility, that provides addiction or mental health treatment or support services;
- a public location being used for making motion picture or television images for theatrical, commercial or educational purposes, during the time such location is being used for that purpose;
- private property, including but not limited to residential, commercial, industrial, agricultural, institutional, or undeveloped property, unless the owner has provided express consent or has posted a sign indicating that it is permissible to carry on the premises a concealed handgun with a valid and lawfully issued permit to carry; and
- any other place in which the carrying of a handgun is prohibited by statute or rule or regulation promulgated by a federal or State agency or by municipal ordinance or regulation.
The bill also requires the holder of a permit to carry a handgun to adhere to certain requirements while transporting the handgun in a vehicle.
Finally, the bill requires a person purchasing a firearm or firearm ammunition to disclose in a written document under penalty of perjury whether the firearm or ammunition to be purchased is intended to be transferred to a third party, and the name and address of the third party, if known.
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS
The committee amendments:
1) increase the maximum fee that a firearm retailer or dealer may charge for conducting long gun sales transactions from $25 to $70;
2) removes from section four a reference to the Commissioner of Banking and Insurance to clarify the availability of the firearm permit carry insurance coverage in the bill; and
3) make technical corrections.
The 10th Annual National Vigil for All Victims of Gun Violence will be held in person on Wednesday, December 7, 2022 from 7-9pm ET at St Marks Episcopal Church on Capitol Hill, Washington, D.C.
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The researchers also asked about the future role of firearms “in a situation where you think force or violence is justified to advance an important political objective.” Nearly 15 percent of strong Republicans said it was “very or extremely likely” that they will be armed with a gun in such a situation, while only 5 percent of strong Democrats said the same. Personal willingness to threaten or shoot someone with a gun was uncommon, the survey found, with no statistically significant variation by party affiliation.
Nearly 2,000,000 law-abiding armed citizens in the U.S. thwart armed criminals every year. A new study just came out saying that the FBI is underreporting this information to the public and legislators by 34%. That means almost 2.5 MILLION law-abiding Americans are thwarting crimes. Police chiefs of large cities around the country are now telling their residents to go buy a gun or guns, because the cops can’t protect them.
National studies by police say takes them anywhere from 11 minutes to over an hour (Detroit) to arrive at a gun violence crime scene. By that time all they do is write reports and clean up the mess. So, cops are totally ineffective in handling violent gun crimes.
The Taliban disarmed the entire nation of Afghanistan with you guessed it–while carrying American made weapons we gave up to them ($87 BILLION DOLLARS WORTH) when exiting Afghanistan under Democrat Joe Biden’s watch.
Over 250 MILLION disarmed citizen were murdered by their own governments during the 20th Century until Present, when they imposed “reasonable” and “common sense” gun control on the populace. Those countries are as follows: Red China (over 100 MILLION MURDERED), Soviet Union (over 50 MILLION MURDERED), Nazi Germany (yes, they’re a Socialist country also–15 MILLION MURDERED, including 6 MILLION of one religious affiliation), Imperial Japan from 1931-1945 (over 12 MILLION MURDERED), North Korea (over 5 MILLION MURDERED), Cambodia under Communist Khmer Rouge, Vietnam under Communist Rule, Afghanistan and now Venezuela under Communist Rule each MURDERED over 2 MILLION DISARMED CITIZENS!!!!
Yes, gun control works–when government has the total control over all guns and total control over the people.
Australia and New Zealand confiscated everyone’s guns over the past 10 years. Violent crime and violent home invasions have spiked by over 50 and 75 percent, respectively. People in those 2 nations have been buying firearms on the black market (where criminals get theirs). SO, NO! GUN CONTROL DOESN’T WORK AND IS A TOTAL FAILURE!!!!!
The new anti-Second Amendment legislation in NJ should be called “The Gun Safety to Protect Criminals Act”.
NJ can no longer keep its gun owners as slaves, so they rapidly fashioned an ad hoc set of Jim Crow laws to make a right into a privilege, and to put citizens into peril of a felony for not being able to navigate a law that the bills own sponsor can neither explain, or defend. This is civics 101 on bad lawmaking. Laws made in haste and with emotion are never good laws.
The JIM CROW 2.0 act
And yet, in 43 states in the US. Normal everyday handgun carry is accepted and works just fine. What makes NJ not a state in the USA?
Every effort is being made to protect the criminal, while legal gun owners are restricted. The constitutional carry issue will be debated endlessly by our devious and dishonest politicians.
What is overlooked is the fact that as the criminal
element increases and prosecutors fail to act, those with gun permits will carry their gun with them, regardless of whether they are “allowed”.
gun slingers out of ordinary citizens
Politicians who propose and pass anti-Second Amendment gun control laws in New Jersey are in violation of their Constitutional Oaths of Office to Uphold, Support & Defend the U.S. Constitution–which includes the Second Amendment. Given that the US Supreme Ct. held in McDonald v. Chicago (2010) that the 2nd Amendment is incorporated into the States via the 14th Amendment, any anti-gun, anti-Second Amendment gun control laws are unconstitutional on their face and in their application.
Any and all politicians proposing, supporting and/or passing anti-gun, anti-Second Amendment laws commits felony OFFICIAL MISCONDUCT in violation of N.J.S.A. 2C:30-2, felony OFFICIAL DEPRIVATION OF CIVIL RIGHTS in violation of N.J.S.A. 2C:30-6, and felony PATTERN OF OFFICIAL MISCONDUCT in violation of N.J.S.A. 2C:30-7. These are not only criminal felonies, they are IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES!!!!